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Old 6th March 2018, 12:38   #141
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It was sarcasm. You love the gossip it seems.
Just interested in what sparked off the tea time entertainment. If I really loved gossip I'd have probably known by now what Mrs Warner's past achievements include.

David Walliams is my particular fave!!
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Old 6th March 2018, 18:50   #142
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One must pose the question, why didn't SA just produce a green top like they did against India in the first place? Were they that spooked by the success India's quicks had against them that they thought it better to produce a slow wicket and expect Maharaj to run through us? Have they seen Australia bat on a green top? 47 all out anyone? Even with the likes of Starc, Cummins & Haze they must back their guys to outperform them especially with their experience in those conditions? Bizarre decision.
Read in Cricinfo that duPlessis asked for slow pitches in this series. Perhaps as you say he was spooked by that India match and didn't fancy playing Stark and Co on something similar. If so it backfired badly.
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Old 6th March 2018, 22:25   #143
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Yes, I read that they requested slow, drier pitches and wondered why also.

I doubt our bowlers will be as good on green seamers as they think. Starc generally bowls poorly on such wickets, Hazlewood can also struggle. Anyway, our batsmen more than nullify anything our bowlers might do, they're generally dire in such conditions.
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Old 6th March 2018, 22:28   #144
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Just seen a Lyon "throwing" the ball at AB. What a lame piece of unsportsmanship, the tit.
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Old 7th March 2018, 01:35   #145
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Just seen a Lyon "throwing" the ball at AB. What a lame piece of unsportsmanship, the tit.
Nah, I like this new version of Lyon. He backs up his talk and attitude as well which helps. Better than the meek shadow of a man he was a year ago.

Both Warner and De Kock charged by the ICC, moreso for the stairwell incident than anything said on field (umpires claim to have heard nothing.) Part of me hopes he gets a one match ban, as it will be the perfect excuse to fly Renshaw over into the squad, and while i'm all for verbals and passion, if it gets to the extent where it overshadows the result of the match, it's not doing cricket any favours.
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Old 7th March 2018, 07:53   #146
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Nah, I like this new version of Lyon. He backs up his talk and attitude as well which helps. Better than the meek shadow of a man he was a year ago.

Both Warner and De Kock charged by the ICC, moreso for the stairwell incident than anything said on field (umpires claim to have heard nothing.) Part of me hopes he gets a one match ban, as it will be the perfect excuse to fly Renshaw over into the squad, and while i'm all for verbals and passion, if it gets to the extent where it overshadows the result of the match, it's not doing cricket any favours.

He has avoided suspension. CA successfully argued for one demerit point below banning.

Yet more footage, this time of Warner abusing de Kock before they entered the tunnel.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cr...4173eab0b7b07b
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Old 7th March 2018, 10:14   #147
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He has avoided suspension. CA successfully argued for one demerit point below banning.

Yet more footage, this time of Warner abusing de Kock before they entered the tunnel.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cr...4173eab0b7b07b
If 'effing sook' was the worst of it, then it was pretty tame really.
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Old 7th March 2018, 11:24   #148
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If 'effing sook' was the worst of it, then it was pretty tame really.
And if mentioning SBW can still bother Warner after more than 10 years since the incident, then he should keep his mouth shut on the field. I think we know who the real sook is.
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Old 7th March 2018, 11:51   #149
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If 'effing sook' was the worst of it, then it was pretty tame really.
Evidently this was on the back of an hour of sledging de Kock who is contesting his charge.
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Old 7th March 2018, 13:23   #150
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UnAustralian? Let's see.

Scores mountains of runs on our flat decks where the ball doesn't veer off the straight......check.
No idea against spin.....check.
Not terribly fond of seam......check.
Struggles with swing......check.

That'a as Aussie as it gets lol.

Sure, he doesn't always fail under pressure or appear to be an obnoxious bogan ass--le, so he still needs work in some areas. Has the rest covered quite well though.
Well you are anything but un-English, are you ?
Can't handle being beaten by the convicts, can't beat them on the field, so you take it out on them on an internet forum, from the safety of your computer room.
You do realise don't you, that your insults towards us only makes our victories that much sweeter ?
Keep them coming old chap, we are lapping them up ! lol
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Old 7th March 2018, 13:25   #151
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And if mentioning SBW can still bother Warner after more than 10 years since the incident, then he should keep his mouth shut on the field. I think we know who the real sook is.
What a bitch ! lol
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Just seen a Lyon "throwing" the ball at AB. What a lame piece of unsportsmanship, the tit.
Looks like he just dropped it next to him to me, nothing in it but Warners another story.

I love aggressive in your face sledging cricket and thats how we should play the game but theres a line that one needs to be careful not to cross that makes you look like a goose if crossed, he crossed that line with his silly screaming when they got the wicket, looked like an ice addict in the Cross where i live, who hasnt had any gear for 24 hours and has lost the plot.

Dave has issues between the ears, theres no doubt about it.
The outburst was an indirect result and buildup of poor form imo, hes frustrated and looks it at the crease.

In the past dramas like this have motivated him to put in some big innings, i hope thats the case here because he's put plenty of pressure on himself.

Ive no doubt Warners started this drama with dekock, hes good at giving it but acts like a tool when he cops it back.

Be very aggressive, but dont lose your cool or temper because when you do, you give the upper hand away.
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Well you are anything but un-English, are you ?
Can't handle being beaten by the convicts, can't beat them on the field, so you take it out on them on an internet forum, from the safety of your computer room.
You do realise don't you, that your insults towards us only makes our victories that much sweeter ?
Keep them coming old chap, we are lapping them up ! lol
Lol.

Get over yourself Mickmac. Criticism of our batting doesn't amount to insult just because you don't like it, and being an Aussie doesn't require that you constantly blow smoke up the team's arse.

Khawaja is possibly the worst against spin of any of our regular batsmen I can recall. That goes back some way and is no mean feat when you consider how many worthy contenders there have been, particularly in recent years.

Our travails for most of the last decade when the ball moves off the straight are also well documented. They have been acknowledged at different times by Captain and coach, as well as laughed at by various opposition.

We seem to be going in a better direction after the last clean out of spuds and are improving against spin (when Khawaja is left out). It remains to be seen how we fare in good seam bowling conditions.
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Old 8th March 2018, 00:48   #154
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And if mentioning SBW can still bother Warner after more than 10 years since the incident, then he should keep his mouth shut on the field. I think we know who the real sook is.
Can't disagree with that. By carrying on like a numbskull he has taken an insult intended to rankle him and which could have been left between those two, and made sure his wife also suffered embarrassment from it. Seems a bit of a schoolboy-ish taunt, but after that reaction he can expect more of it.

Last series in SA he responded to comments from duPlessis by "barking" at him on field. Yes, this is our vice Captain. Classy. You've got to wonder if G Smith might be right in his assessment that SA now simply see him as a fool.
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And if mentioning SBW can still bother Warner after more than 10 years since the incident, then he should keep his mouth shut on the field. I think we know who the real sook is.
Hence the irony of the following incident.

Further footage has shown the moment de kock said the insult, and Paine immediately bear hugging Warner towards the stairs. Just imagine if it had of been Wade in that moment instead? He'd be egging Warner on as the punches fly.
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I love that David Warner now sees himself as chief arbiter in what is and isn't acceptable to say. What a cry baby.
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I love that David Warner now sees himself as chief arbiter in what is and isn't acceptable to say. What a cry baby.
He's blatantly sexist as well.
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Extremely impressed by Faf du Plessis's maturity in handling this situation. As impressive a leader as I've seen in all my years of watching cricket.

Makes a refreshing change from the likes of Kohli & Smith, who seem to think acknowledging that the world is rarely black and white will make them traitors towards their teams. I was particularly intrigued by Smith's implicit suggestion that this sort of "headbutting the line" behavior is what makes Australian cricket the force that it is (as has been mentioned by several commentators - who defines the line anyway? Australian cricketers just don't seem to grasp that they don't have exclusive ownership of the line. South Africa, India, Bangladesh, England etc. will all have definitions of this abstract line).

I'd have thought Australia, the greatest cricketing nation on the planet and whose great teams not just dominated cricket but revolutionized the game - de Kock himself, like several others, would probably not be the player he is in a pre-Adam Gilchrist era - owe their excellence to awesome natural talent, a well defined pathway for high performance athletes and an unceasing commitment to striving for excellence.

But no, apparently behaving like a pack of wild dogs is what really defines them.
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Extremely impressed by Faf du Plessis's maturity in handling this situation. As impressive a leader as I've seen in all my years of watching cricket.

Makes a refreshing change from the likes of Kohli & Smith, who seem to think acknowledging that the world is rarely black and white will make them traitors towards their teams. I was particularly intrigued by Smith's implicit suggestion that this sort of "headbutting the line" behavior is what makes Australian cricket the force that it is (as has been mentioned by several commentators - who defines the line anyway? Australian cricketers just don't seem to grasp that they don't have exclusive ownership of the line. South Africa, India, Bangladesh, England etc. will all have definitions of this abstract line).

I'd have thought Australia, the greatest cricketing nation on the planet and whose great teams not just dominated cricket but revolutionized the game - de Kock himself, like several others, would probably not be the player he is in a pre-Adam Gilchrist era - owe their excellence to awesome natural talent, a well defined pathway for high performance athletes and an unceasing commitment to striving for excellence.

But no, apparently behaving like a pack of wild dogs is what really defines them.
Yep, totally agree. The excuse that behaving like tools makes them what they are is just that: an excuse for behaving like tools. Its absolute bunkum.

Ian Chappell's comments on the matter were refreshing. One wonders what the umpires are doing. Are they deaf?!
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Extremely impressed by Faf du Plessis's maturity in handling this situation. As impressive a leader as I've seen in all my years of watching cricket.

Makes a refreshing change from the likes of Kohli & Smith, who seem to think acknowledging that the world is rarely black and white will make them traitors towards their teams. I was particularly intrigued by Smith's implicit suggestion that this sort of "headbutting the line" behavior is what makes Australian cricket the force that it is (as has been mentioned by several commentators - who defines the line anyway? Australian cricketers just don't seem to grasp that they don't have exclusive ownership of the line. South Africa, India, Bangladesh, England etc. will all have definitions of this abstract line).

I'd have thought Australia, the greatest cricketing nation on the planet and whose great teams not just dominated cricket but revolutionized the game - de Kock himself, like several others, would probably not be the player he is in a pre-Adam Gilchrist era - owe their excellence to awesome natural talent, a well defined pathway for high performance athletes and an unceasing commitment to striving for excellence.

But no, apparently behaving like a pack of wild dogs is what really defines them.
Personally I don't think Australia is as great a cricketing nation as India. Certainly a lot more macho though, if you like that kind of thing.
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