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Old 4th August 2016, 22:59   #1641
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There is some crap in there (Morris) but SA previously went through a phase where Nel, for all his passion, was the attack leader, or when Amla was labeled a player that will never be international class. I'm not ready to write off all those players and I think several will improve.
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Old 4th August 2016, 23:00   #1642
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I admit I have a soft spot for Saffers, maybe cause I'm a huge AB fan and so have watched a fair number of their games in all formats. I can't understand why the selectors choose Faf Du Plesis, Elgar, Van Zyl and Abbott? Is that really the best you guys can offer nowadays?
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Old 31st August 2016, 10:30   #1643
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Good to see a few stalwarts performing - steyn, philly, faf, JP. Need to see more before declaring a return to form but a good start. Be interesting to see what they do when morkel and Elgar are back, given their replacements' success. Even piedt looks decent.
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Old 4th September 2016, 02:00   #1644
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafr...y/1053999.html

The targets will not be imposed on the XI in every match they play but calculated on an average basis over the season. That means that South Africa's selectors will not be strictly bound to that combination all the time, but if there are some matches where they do not meet the targets, they will have to compensate in other games.

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The official targets are a minimum of 54 per cent black players - effectively six players other than white - with 18 per cent black African, which equates to two players in a team of 11.

This effectively means an average maximum of five white players in a team.
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Old 15th September 2016, 08:00   #1645
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i wonder why imran tahir not selected last time southafrica played international?
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Old 15th September 2016, 20:31   #1646
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i wonder why imran tahir not selected last time southafrica played international?
Tests? Not being very good at them, I think.
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Old 12th December 2016, 18:26   #1647
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Old 12th December 2016, 18:51   #1648
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The right decision, he seemed a bit of a reluctant captain whereas Faf seems to have a bit more grit about him.
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Old 13th December 2016, 07:58   #1649
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The right decision, he seemed a bit of a reluctant captain whereas Faf seems to have a bit more grit about him.
Well, he's not able to play in the next series anyway. Problem is sa's middle order is going to be full when he does get back and faf wasn't having the most consistent time. Could be interesting.
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Old 14th December 2016, 14:33   #1650
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South Africa Test squad: Faf du Plessis (capt), Kyle Abbott, Hashim Amla, Temba Bavuma, Stephen Cook, Theunis de Bruyn, Quinton de Kock, JP Duminy, Dean Elgar, Keshav Maharaj, Wayne Parnell, Vernon Philander, Kagiso Rabada.

In: Theunis de Bruyn, Wayne Parnell
Out: Morne Morkel, Dale Steyn, Rilee Rossouw (all injured), Tabraiz Shamsi

2 Tests v Sri Lanka to start on Boxing Day.
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Old 22nd December 2016, 11:06   #1651
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Faf loses his appeal. Which is fair enough, rules is rules. But it's going to make things interesting as everyone has pretty much admitted to doing the same thing. This isn't a defence, but it shows the confusion around the rules.

The judge (or whatever) even said that mixing saliva and an artificial substance makes the saliva artificial. We know all players take some sort of food or drink onto to the field with them, so how long do you have to wait to ensure the saliva is natural? Do we need some form of ruling similar to the kosher milk and meat one?
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Old 22nd December 2016, 11:10   #1652
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"The saliva/mint or the combination thereof was an 'artificial substance' (although the saliva per se is not"
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Old 24th December 2016, 14:20   #1653
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South Africa bowlers over the last 2 years

11 Tests 44 wickets at 23.75 econ 3.52 s/r 40.4 4/1 - Rabada (21)
12 Tests 38 wickets at 26.23 econ 2.90 s/r 54.2 0/0 - Morkel (32)
10 Tests 34 wickets at 19.38 econ 3.01 s/r 38.5 2/0 - Steyn (33)
11 Tests 27 wickets at 24.96 econ 2.48 s/r 60.3 1/0 - Philander (31)
7 Tests 22 wickets at 24.22 econ 2.52 s/r 57.6 2/0 - Abbott (29)

Also used in the last 3 years
Morris 29 (2)
Parnell 27 (1)
Viljoen 27 (1)

Firdose Moonda asking if Abbott can have a regular spot in the Test side. Probably, because of injuries, but if all were fit maybe not.

Are SA going to go with 3 or 4 fast bowlers? Last Test 3 fast bowlers. Philander seen as a sort of all rounder. He gets in at number 6 in the all rounder rankings, behind Stokes and Ali.

When everyone is fit it looks like Steyn, Philander, Rabada and spinner. Australia also went into their last Test with 3 fast bowlers and a spinner. Easier for a captain to just have 4 bowlers.
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Old 24th December 2016, 19:53   #1654
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South Africa bowlers over the last 2 years

11 Tests 44 wickets at 23.75 econ 3.52 s/r 40.4 4/1 - Rabada (21)
12 Tests 38 wickets at 26.23 econ 2.90 s/r 54.2 0/0 - Morkel (32)
10 Tests 34 wickets at 19.38 econ 3.01 s/r 38.5 2/0 - Steyn (33)
11 Tests 27 wickets at 24.96 econ 2.48 s/r 60.3 1/0 - Philander (31)
7 Tests 22 wickets at 24.22 econ 2.52 s/r 57.6 2/0 - Abbott (29)

Also used in the last 3 years
Morris 29 (2)
Parnell 27 (1)
Viljoen 27 (1)

Firdose Moonda asking if Abbott can have a regular spot in the Test side. Probably, because of injuries, but if all were fit maybe not.

Are SA going to go with 3 or 4 fast bowlers? Last Test 3 fast bowlers. Philander seen as a sort of all rounder. He gets in at number 6 in the all rounder rankings, behind Stokes and Ali.

When everyone is fit it looks like Steyn, Philander, Rabada and spinner. Australia also went into their last Test with 3 fast bowlers and a spinner. Easier for a captain to just have 4 bowlers.
I'd expect Abbott and Philander to be pencilled in for the England tour as best suited to the conditions, as I asked before the Australia tour it will be interesting if they decide to go with 4 seamers or 3 and a spinner, injuries will play a part in that especially Steyns as I'd expect Rabada to start as well.

Rabada, Abbott and Philander have probably earnt themselves at least these two tests vs SL.
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Old 25th December 2016, 00:28   #1655
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Tough to see a side with just four bowlers if one is Steyn: they've been burned too many times with in game injuries to him recently.
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Tough to see a side with just four bowlers if one is Steyn: they've been burned too many times with in game injuries to him recently.

I'd be surprised if he makes it to be honest. Hope so though.

But also a shame if they couldn't find a position for Abbott either. Fine seam bowler. Australia were rabble at the time, but I don't think he erred in line or length a single delivery against Aus. Very impressed as I didn't much of him previously.

I think they should go with four quicks regardless. Duminy and whoever else can send down some spin if need be. It's hardly like Maharaj is going to win a test for them.
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Old 1st January 2017, 11:15   #1657
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Faf loses his appeal. Which is fair enough, rules is rules. But it's going to make things interesting as everyone has pretty much admitted to doing the same thing. This isn't a defence, but it shows the confusion around the rules.

The judge (or whatever) even said that mixing saliva and an artificial substance makes the saliva artificial. We know all players take some sort of food or drink onto to the field with them, so how long do you have to wait to ensure the saliva is natural? Do we need some form of ruling similar to the kosher milk and meat one?
Who is everyone?
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Old 1st January 2017, 11:16   #1658
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Anyway, back to SA. They've had a great end to the year. Demolishing Australia twice and an entertaining test against SL.

However SA are in for another tough time in 2017 with the ICC champs trophy and having to fight off the label of chokers. This is their greatest stumbling block and although SA are often one of my fave neutral teams I always feel for them during tournament years.

Also, whats the test schedule like? A team as good as them needs to be playing regularly.
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Old 1st January 2017, 12:19   #1659
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Seems they've got a busy year this year, with test tours to NZ and England followed by a home series v India in 12 months time.
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When England played at Newlands last on 2 Jan 2016 629 v 627.

Against SL a nice juicy green pitch is forecast.
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