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Old 6th January 2018, 21:27   #1821
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Woops.should have been in another thread. Getting use to the forum
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Old 10th January 2018, 15:25   #1822
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Sir Coolerking is entirely correct. Free-to-air is a boat that has sailed. Kids today do not watch conventional old-fashioned TV. It's all tablets and smart phones and apps and You Tube.

My grandchildren would never dream of watching terrestial TV. They watch Netflix and Instagram other digital subscription services.

Even I didn't watch the fifth Test on the TV in the living room last night - I watched it in bed via the BT app on a tablet.

There doesn't seem to be much trouble in getting young people and families along to T20. Every time I've gone to a T20 Blast game there have been thousasnds of kids - and there seem to be tens of thousands of them at the BBL matches I've been watching on BT Sport. Some of them watch the cricket, some just enjoy the 'event', as Summer of 77 says.

Thanks to the shortest form of the game cricket is actually in a healthier state than it has been for a long , long time. Nobody has watched the county championship in years. It's still my favourite form of the game - not least because I quite enjoy sitting there with my family and nobody else within 50 yards of us. But we have to accept it is a minority sport and that will never change.
Any chance you could have a word with one of your work colleagues and get the "Download: 2017 full fixture calendar" bit of the matches page on ecb.co.uk updated?

It's almost as if they couldn't care less about county cricket?
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Old 10th January 2018, 17:10   #1823
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Any chance you could have a word with one of your work colleagues and get the "Download: 2017 full fixture calendar" bit of the matches page on ecb.co.uk updated?

It's almost as if they couldn't care less about county cricket?
And get the Second XI fixtures out as well!
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Old 24th January 2018, 17:04   #1824
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And get the Second XI fixtures out as well!
Notts 2nds fixtures have appeared on the O.S. so they must all be available now.
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Old 24th January 2018, 17:10   #1825
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Notts 2nds fixtures have appeared on the O.S. so they must all be available now.
Yeah, they appeared on the ECB website yesterday.

http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/602610/sec...ures-confirmed
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Old 25th January 2018, 09:21   #1826
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Yeah, they appeared on the ECB website yesterday.

http://www.ecb.co.uk/news/602610/sec...ures-confirmed
But they still only have the 2017 version of the complete 1st XI fixtures available!
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Old 27th January 2018, 10:35   #1827
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Just two years to go to when the IPL auction for 2020 and the first ECB City Franchise auction occur in order to be able to work out who is not available for half the season of county cricket.
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Old 14th February 2018, 17:49   #1828
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So the 8 chosen venues are Lords, the Oval, the Egregious Bowl, Headingly, OT, Edgbaston, Trentbridge and Cardiff.
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Old 14th February 2018, 19:11   #1829
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So the 8 chosen venues are Lords, the Oval, the Egregious Bowl, Headingly, OT, Edgbaston, Trentbridge and Cardiff.
perhaps not surprisingly Lancashire County Cricket Club seem a little confused and seem to have invented a new club to take this forward. Left wondering if the dropping of the word County is a simple oversight (repeated several times) or whether it is seen as a clever way to blurr the edges between the County Club and the new franchise:

http://www.lccc.co.uk/cricket/news/2...petition-host/
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It was all very predictable really.

The names of the 8 new T20 teams will be more interesting. With geography playing no part whatsoever will there be a common theme? Or will it just be a case of choose 8 from a predictable list? (Kings, Lions etc) Or will they be sponsor based like the Royal Challengers Bangalore?

Perhaps the most pertinent question is how come it takes the ECB so long to make these decisions?
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Old 14th February 2018, 19:24   #1831
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Good stuff. A ground that is accessible to no one in Southampton and a ground in a country where hardly anyone cares about cricket. Smashing. I bet the roads will be full of cricket fans from the south west taking the 2.5 hour journey to their local franchise. Yep. I now live in Warwick and Leeds and old Trafford are more local for me than any franchise would be in south Devon. Smashing.

I predict Cardiff will be full of school kids on the cheap and London grounds full of City toss pots on corporates i.e. Sod all families as priced out. I hope this crash and burns or test cricket and the four day game will die until people realise t20 is not actually that much fun to watch all year round.
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Old 14th February 2018, 20:11   #1832
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It was all very predictable really.

The names of the 8 new T20 teams will be more interesting. With geography playing no part whatsoever will there be a common theme? Or will it just be a case of choose 8 from a predictable list? (Kings, Lions etc) Or will they be sponsor based like the Royal Challengers Bangalore?

Perhaps the most pertinent question is how come it takes the ECB so long to make these decisions?
Didn't the counties make their pitches to the decision panel 2-3 weeks ago? Considering the tournament isn't for another 2.5 years I'm not exactly sure they need to rush it through at a speed any quicker than that.


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Good stuff. A ground that is accessible to no one in Southampton and a ground in a country where hardly anyone cares about cricket. Smashing. I bet the roads will be full of cricket fans from the south west taking the 2.5 hour journey to their local franchise. Yep. I now live in Warwick and Leeds and old Trafford are more local for me than any franchise would be in south Devon. Smashing.
Accessible to no one yet quite often getting some of the best t20 attendances outside London?
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Old 14th February 2018, 20:15   #1833
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Didn't the counties make their pitches to the decision panel 2-3 weeks ago? Considering the tournament isn't for another 2.5 years I'm not exactly sure they need to rush it through at a speed any quicker than that.
Yeah i know, just looking for a bit of bantz on a dark, wet February evening!
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Old 14th February 2018, 20:16   #1834
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Yeah i know, just looking for a bit of bantz on a dark, wet February evening!
Admittedly I was a bit slow on that .
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Old 14th February 2018, 20:24   #1835
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Accessible to no one yet quite often getting some of the best t20 attendances outside London?
^in England.

Obviously the Blast doesn't compare (at least not favourably) to the attendances in the Big Bash.
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Old 14th February 2018, 20:41   #1836
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It was all very predictable really.

The names of the 8 new T20 teams will be more interesting. With geography playing no part whatsoever will there be a common theme? Or will it just be a case of choose 8 from a predictable list? (Kings, Lions etc) Or will they be sponsor based like the Royal Challengers Bangalore?

Perhaps the most pertinent question is how come it takes the ECB so long to make these decisions?
I'm left wondering how the County PR people will play this.

The media releases confirm that the ground, not the county club, have been allocated as the T20 hosts. But we all knew that.

So what will happen to the Members? Ok some coiunties don't have members conveniently but most do.

When you give your ground away to another corporate body, the franchise, for 4 weeks (say) who has rights over members' facilities for example to the pavilions?

Does the new franchise offer preferential rights to existing members? Do they pay the County Club to market the event? Do they pay the Club for access to the members on their database? Does Data Protection allow that?

Lots of pertinent questions.

Or is it really the county clubs - or 8 of them - who will be the team managers?
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I'm left wondering how the County PR people will play this.

The media releases confirm that the ground, not the county club, have been allocated as the T20 hosts. But we all knew that.

So what will happen to the Members - ok some coiunties don't have members conveniently but most do?

When you give your ground away to another corporate body, the franchise, for 4 weeks (say) who has rights over members' facilities for example to the pavilions?

Does the new franchise offer preferential rights to existing members? Do they pay the County Club to market the event? Do they pay the Club for access to the members on their database? Does Data Protection allow that?

Lots of pertinent questions.
I'd imagine most members will not be in the target audience. Apparently Yorkshire have already said that games wont be part of their membership. I'm guessing it will be the same across the board. There'll be no such thing as members facilities. The counties will probably just sell those tickets at a higher price.
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Old 19th February 2018, 10:48   #1838
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So the Big Bash has lost $33m in its first 5 years, despite the big crowds and the fact that cricket fans have a natural affinity with their teams. What on earth is the ECB’s new city comp going to lose when many fans ignore it and keep watching their counties?
I'd say the ECB are gambling with the future of Cricket, and gamblers seldom win in the long term.
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Old 19th February 2018, 19:41   #1839
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If CA has spent what works out at 3.5 million GBP per year keeping cricket such a vibrant and vital presence in Australian national life, then surely it is money well spent?

The annual sum equates roughly to the subsidy that the ECB pays every year to Derbyshire and Northamptonshire, whose combined annual attendance over all matches totals something like 2 per cent of the numbers who attended this season's BBL...

Why don't we work out how much the county championship has "lost" over the last five years? It's a sum at least ten times what CA has spent on the BBL!

The ECB's turnover over the five years since the BBL started is roughly 600 million GBP. It's reserves currently stand at 73 million.

The ECB has identified three key growth areas into which it is strategically pouring resources - (i) women's cricket (ii) the wonderully inspiring All-Stars Cricket programme for 5-8 year olds (on which I have been proud to help-out) and (iii) England's belated, more-than-a-decade-late answer to the IPL.

"Gambling with the future of cricket" - or trying to connect our great game with an audience beyond the valiant coterie of pale, male and stale pensioners that makes up 80 per cent of county memberships?

One has to ask what those who spend all their time and energy abusing the ECB have done to grow the game. Do they coach young players and umpire youth games - or do they just sit on the sidelines moaning and whingeing that 'fings ain't what they used to be'?
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The next marketing ploy will be to make stumps obsolete. The only way you can be out is caught. Encourage the batsman to hit every ball over the ropes.

It's coming. You heard it here first.
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