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Old 5th March 2018, 12:25   #121
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Good fight from the Saffers. Looks set to be a good competitive series. Not much love lost between some of them it appears.
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Old 5th March 2018, 13:24   #122
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So Warner spends all afternoon session calling de Kock (and his family) bushpigs. As they leave the field of play, Quinton reminds Warner of his wife's previous misdemeanours, notably with Sonny Bill Williams in a Sydney toilet!!

As usual, Warner the pathetic bully can dish it out....
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Old 5th March 2018, 13:27   #123
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Of course the captain has to make the correct decision.

Sometimes though, conditions mean it's a no-brainer, and a big advantage to the winner.

SA certainly pushed harder than many thought, but Starc is a huge weapon at both ends of the innings.

As for Warner, he is the quintessential brainless bogan.
As far as what to do when you win the toss goes, Root is a good batsman.
And I agree with you about Warner, he's a tosser.
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Old 5th March 2018, 13:27   #124
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... As usual, Warner the pathetic bully can dish it out....
I certainly wouldn't expect to hear him described as unAustralian.
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Old 5th March 2018, 13:28   #125
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So Warner spends all afternoon session calling de Kock (and his family) bushpigs. As they leave the field of play, Quinton reminds Warner of his wife's previous misdemeanours, notably with Sonny Bill Williams in a Sydney toilet!!

As usual, Warner the pathetic bully can dish it out....
Sounds like you are right into gossip !
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Old 5th March 2018, 13:31   #126
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I certainly wouldn't expect to hear him described as unAustralian.
No the Roo wouldn't describe him as "un-Australian" because he is from his home town and not born in another country.
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Old 5th March 2018, 13:44   #127
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Sounds like you are right into gossip !
Not really, but if my wife had a past like Warner's, I doubt I'd say a single word on the field.

Lyon now charged with an offence for the ball dropping incident, he's also since apologised to de Villiers. Just an odd one that.
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Old 6th March 2018, 04:05   #128
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Lyon now charged with an offence for the ball dropping incident, he's also since apologised to de Villiers. Just an odd one that.
This is weird. Players are hurling personal insults involving families on the field, and Lyon is the one who gets charged for an act that was more cheeky that it was aggressive? Is there any consistency as to who gets fined and what its for? Umpires need to issue on the spot fines until they start to get the point.

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Old 6th March 2018, 06:40   #129
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hes a little pussy and unAustralian imo.
UnAustralian? Let's see.

Scores mountains of runs on our flat decks where the ball doesn't veer off the straight......check.
No idea against spin.....check.
Not terribly fond of seam......check.
Struggles with swing......check.

That'a as Aussie as it gets lol.

Sure, he doesn't always fail under pressure or appear to be an obnoxious bogan ass--le, so he still needs work in some areas. Has the rest covered quite well though.
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Old 6th March 2018, 07:55   #130
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This is weird. Players are hurling personal insults involving families on the field, and Lyon is the one who gets charged for an act that was more cheeky that it was aggressive? Is there any consistency as to who gets fined and what its for? Umpires need to issue on the spot fines until they start to get the point.
It was gratuitous though and breached some rule. It would be an ugly precedent to set if he was let off as it could inflame tensions if more volatile players were involved. How would Stokes go if Rabada dropped the ball on him?

Lyon showed as much disrespect to ABDV as he did to his wife when he shocked her by walking out on her over Christmas.
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Old 6th March 2018, 08:24   #131
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It was gratuitous though and breached some rule. It would be an ugly precedent to set if he was let off as it could inflame tensions if more volatile players were involved. How would Stokes go if Rabada dropped the ball on him?

Lyon showed as much disrespect to ABDV as he did to his wife when he shocked her by walking out on her over Christmas.
I'd sooner see Marlon Samuels try it on Stokes!!
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Not really, but if my wife had a past like Warner's, I doubt I'd say a single word on the field.
If you were to get over this obvious aversion to gossip...and say, simply start gossiping like a champion...recent posts indicate it might require minimal change lol.
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Moving things back to the cricket, this Test really didn't highlight anything we didn't already know and i'd expect the rest of the series to follow a similar pattern - the only real shock was Smith not converting a start into a 100. South Africa's batting we know is in somewhat of a precarious state, with Amla, du Plessis and de Villiers all nearing the end - i'd hazard a guess that at least two of those won't be involved in SA's next series given subsequent to these Tests there's a lengthy gap. Whether the selectors opt to fast forward that in this series by pushing Amla is a possibility but something which i would be surprised to see. From a positive perspective Markram's runs were hugely welcome given the current state of affairs, as was QDK's return to form and to a lesser extent the de Bruyne's resistance on day four. I'm not sure i particularly buy into the notion that the talent drain to England is the reason behind South Africa's batting frailties, when you consider the likes of Rossouw and van Zyl have hardly set the world alight in county cricket - if anything it's a convenient excuse.

Like England, the South African tail was blown away by Starc and whilst it's easy for du Plessis to suggest SA need more the lower order, in reality that's an incredibly tough ask. In many ways that Australia were able to scrap another 100 or so runs from the lower order in the first dig was a fundamental factor in Australia taking the game away from SA - again something which happened consistently in the Ashes.
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Old 6th March 2018, 09:51   #134
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Moving things back to the cricket, this Test really didn't highlight anything we didn't already know and i'd expect the rest of the series to follow a similar pattern - the only real shock was Smith not converting a start into a 100. South Africa's batting we know is in somewhat of a precarious state, with Amla, du Plessis and de Villiers all nearing the end - i'd hazard a guess that at least two of those won't be involved in SA's next series given subsequent to these Tests there's a lengthy gap. Whether the selectors opt to fast forward that in this series by pushing Amla is a possibility but something which i would be surprised to see. From a positive perspective Markram's runs were hugely welcome given the current state of affairs, as was QDK's return to form and to a lesser extent the de Bruyne's resistance on day four. I'm not sure i particularly buy into the notion that the talent drain to England is the reason behind South Africa's batting frailties, when you consider the likes of Rossouw and van Zyl have hardly set the world alight in county cricket - if anything it's a convenient excuse.

Like England, the South African tail was blown away by Starc and whilst it's easy for du Plessis to suggest SA need more the lower order, in reality that's an incredibly tough ask. In many ways that Australia were able to scrap another 100 or so runs from the lower order in the first dig was a fundamental factor in Australia taking the game away from SA - again something which happened consistently in the Ashes.

Well summed up. With SA's brittle batting against a weapon like Starc and the admirable support bowlers, it's hard to see them getting over the line. Of course batting first might help if they can survive the initial barrage.

Markram is a huge bonus and would be up there with the most promising young bats in the world. QDK rediscovered his old form, but it was Mitch Marsh and Starc who really set the game up for the Aussies.

Maybe a surprise was Maharaj outbowling Lyon.
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Well summed up. With SA's brittle batting against a weapon like Starc and the admirable support bowlers, it's hard to see them getting over the line. Of course batting first might help if they can survive the initial barrage.

Markram is a huge bonus and would be up there with the most promising young bats in the world. QDK rediscovered his old form, but it was Mitch Marsh and Starc who really set the game up for the Aussies.

Maybe a surprise was Maharaj outbowling Lyon.
Maharaj might have got the better match figures, but surely one of the most pivotal moments of the match was Lyon getting a couple of wickets in his first over when SA had started reasonably well in their first. It was utterly downhill for them after that. Lyon may not have filled in the wickets column in the second innings but by that point it was nearly irrelevant to the final outcome of the match.
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One must pose the question, why didn't SA just produce a green top like they did against India in the first place? Were they that spooked by the success India's quicks had against them that they thought it better to produce a slow wicket and expect Maharaj to run through us? Have they seen Australia bat on a green top? 47 all out anyone? Even with the likes of Starc, Cummins & Haze they must back their guys to outperform them especially with their experience in those conditions? Bizarre decision.
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Well summed up. With SA's brittle batting against a weapon like Starc and the admirable support bowlers, it's hard to see them getting over the line. Of course batting first might help if they can survive the initial barrage.

Markram is a huge bonus and would be up there with the most promising young bats in the world. QDK rediscovered his old form, but it was Mitch Marsh and Starc who really set the game up for the Aussies.

Maybe a surprise was Maharaj outbowling Lyon.
Other than experience, I don't think there's much between Maharaj and Lyon, especially in South Africa.
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One must pose the question, why didn't SA just produce a green top like they did against India in the first place? Were they that spooked by the success India's quicks had against them that they thought it better to produce a slow wicket and expect Maharaj to run through us? Have they seen Australia bat on a green top? 47 all out anyone? Even with the likes of Starc, Cummins & Haze they must back their guys to outperform them especially with their experience in those conditions? Bizarre decision.
Totally agree, and you'd think that both Starc and Cummins would not be as effective on a green top either. Hazlewood still a big threat mind but it would certainly create a more level playing field.
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If you were to get over this obvious aversion to gossip...and say, simply start gossiping like a champion...recent posts indicate it might require minimal change lol.
I have no idea what that means.
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It was sarcasm. You love the gossip it seems.
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