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Old 22nd October 2018, 13:01   #581
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Stockport and York get c3k (I think) in national league north - sixth tier.

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A day at the cricket is just that. A day. On Saturday the kids did their homework, the boy had cross country at a country park. We watched him, played at the country park for an hour, had lunch, did the washing, went to the football and at our friendís house for dinner by 5.45. Try a Saturday like that attending a cricket match.
If only Graves and Harrison could articulate the argument for the Hundred as well as you can!
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Old 22nd October 2018, 13:02   #582
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If only Graves and Harrison could articulate the argument for the Hundred as well as you can!
Sorry. I stole it from when I went to a t20 this summer.
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Old 22nd October 2018, 13:21   #583
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The points made by Tony and Hector are sound. Rather than deride the County Championship for attracting modest crowds, we should be congratulating it for creating a hugely bigger audience than any other Test playing country can manage for its domestic f-c competitions. It was recognised as long ago as the mid-Fifties that Championship attendances were tailing off, hence the introduction of one-day cricket in 1963. Since then, the various shorter formats have helped pulled in the punters and now, 55 years later, English cricket has never been in an overall healthier shape. I'd love yet more people to turn out for Championship games but, really, does it matter that much?
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Old 22nd October 2018, 14:48   #584
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The game I attended yesterday in the third tier of English football had an attendance of about 8,000.

If that was a County Championship match then that would be described as brilliant. Is watching the County Championship really more niche than watching lower league football?
A point just to bear in mind on this. As the Championship matches run over up to 4 days, this is difficult to draw a comparison on. Clearly the attendance figure is more than just those that turn up on one day, but if one says it is the aggregate of four days that is also complicated by those attending on more than one day.
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Old 23rd October 2018, 09:26   #585
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A point just to bear in mind on this. As the Championship matches run over up to 4 days, this is difficult to draw a comparison on. Clearly the attendance figure is more than just those that turn up on one day, but if one says it is the aggregate of four days that is also complicated by those attending on more than one day.
You could compare aggregate attendances over a season. A football side will host 19-23 home league games a year, depending on the division whereas a county side will host a maximum of 28 days of county cricket.
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Stockport and York get c3k (I think) in national league north - sixth tier.
They do, but those are former Football League clubs in the doldrums. There are other clubs in that division regularly pulling around 2,000 or so, e.g. Darlington, Hereford, FC United of Manchester. But there are others in the same division that only pull 200-300. The norm for that level is probably around 600-1200.

Non league football at all levels tends to feature a few clubs in each division pulling far bigger crowds than most of the others.
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Old 23rd October 2018, 15:45   #587
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unfortunately the attention span of most younger fans is about 3 hours, just long enough for a t20. even now where looking at t10, because it is shorter.

people just can not spend a day at the cricket anymore, however the bbc online radio service, which i listen to in aus., has a massive following.
the interest is certainly there but 6 or 7 hours watching the cricket is now only for the retired, those on holiday, or like me a cricket tragic.

as long as the majority of players regard the pinnacle of the season as winning the championship or getting promotion , the game will still continue.
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people just can not spend a day at the cricket anymore, however the bbc online radio service, which i listen to in aus., has a massive following.
the interest is certainly there but 6 or 7 hours watching the cricket is now only for the retired, those on holiday, or like me a cricket tragic.
Enough people seem to manage it for Test matches - in fact, considerably more do in England than forty years ago.

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Enough people seem to manage it for Test matches - in fact, considerably more do in England than forty years ago.
Indeed. When I was a Yorkshire member in the late 70s/early 80s Test match admission was part of the package - or at least the one I had. We had little tear out tickets like postage stamps for each day of the Headingley Test, assuming there was one, which there generally was.
One could rock up, walk across the outfield if dry, and have a wide choice of seats available in the members' enclosure. Bah gum, them were t'days.

Nowadays, of course, tickets go like hotcakes and sometimes it's necessary to be included in a ballot to stand a chance of getting one..
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test matches are always well attended because it is the national team. all cricket lovers want to see england do well.(EXCEPT US AUSSIES)

it is getting people to go to leic v glam at grace road or cardiff in 6 degrees in april that is difficult. an even spread of fixtures throughout the season would help, but we know that will not happen.
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I saw a moment of the UEFA Youth League match between Manchester United and Juventus this afternoon, being played at Leigh Valley, and for some reason being shown live on BT Sports. A decent crowd in the main stand, far more populated than you'd see at many a four day county game.
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Indeed. When I was a Yorkshire member in the late 70s/early 80s Test match admission was part of the package - or at least the one I had. We had little tear out tickets like postage stamps for each day of the Headingley Test, assuming there was one, which there generally was.
One could rock up, walk across the outfield if dry, and have a wide choice of seats available in the members' enclosure. Bah gum, them were t'days.

Nowadays, of course, tickets go like hotcakes and sometimes it's necessary to be included in a ballot to stand a chance of getting one..
Even though those tickets are considerably more expensive these days.

This was also my experience with London Ashes Tests as a young 'un. The ground would eventually be full or near full, but I didn't need an advance ticket, just pootled up on the morning and handed over my few quid.
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I saw a moment of the UEFA Youth League match between Manchester United and Juventus this afternoon, being played at Leigh Valley, and for some reason being shown live on BT Sports. A decent crowd in the main stand, far more populated than you'd see at many a four day county game.
That's interesting, but I am not quite sure what you are driving at?

Manchester United are one of the biggest sports clubs in the world, with an average attendance of 75,000 and followers in every town, so it is not surprising that they should get people at a youth game.

That can't really be compared with a county club such as Sussex. I'm sure Brighton's youth team doesn't get notable attendances if they play on a midweek afternoon.

If in an imaginary world a county cricket club did get gates of 75,000 and you saw people wearing their shirts everywhere, no doubt they would get a couple of thousand in for their 2s games as well.
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Having contemplated the question for some time, I'm not sure that I would try to increase attendances. I prefer a decent sized crowd to a very large one and I'm happy to be able to view the game from different positions during the course of a day - and, if necessary, avoid the incessant chatter of elderly women about TV soups, their grandchildren and Royal Family. (There you are, misogynistic, ageist and anti-Royalist in one sentence).
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They do, but those are former Football League clubs in the doldrums. There are other clubs in that division regularly pulling around 2,000 or so, e.g. Darlington, Hereford, FC United of Manchester. But there are others in the same division that only pull 200-300. The norm for that level is probably around 600-1200.

Non league football at all levels tends to feature a few clubs in each division pulling far bigger crowds than most of the others.
Yep big disparity in this league. My side are lower down the league but rather than go pro like many of the other side they have focussed on hoovering up good players who donít want to be pro. The captain is a senior design engineer at JLR so will earn much more as a non league footballer than he would in league 2. Plus he has a career.

It is a funny old league with the haves and have nots. It is great chatting to opposition fans (non segregated) about how they have ended up where they are. Some over achieving whereas some massively underachieving.

I am ****ed off that attendances at brackley are no higher this year after taking c7k to the trophy final.
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