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Old 17th February 2010, 13:24   #21
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Some more info here:

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Keith Parsons is captain. So that puts the initial average age at 36 going on 37.

Says regular training sessions taking place. I wonder what sort of payment all these players/staff are getting, as with that and 12 fixtures all over the country, they're going to be putting a fair old bit of time into it.
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Old 17th February 2010, 16:41   #22
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I'm a bit surprised Adshead is still without a county. I guess Wes Durston and Alex Tudor may get in there somewhere too
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Old 17th February 2010, 17:44   #23
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I'm a bit surprised Adshead is still without a county
Me too. Released after having his best and most consistent season in all forms of the game - well worth a punt I would have thought.
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Old 9th March 2010, 15:00   #24
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Hi, maybe I am missing something here, but I can't see why this side was needed. If an additional one is/was needed,why not use one that was already in existence: the England Lions. They have an identity and known playing staff; it would guarantee giving the future players of England (or the Rest of The World, as I prefer to call them) game time together and generate a team spirit.

Do we really need more kolpaks littering up the place?
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Old 9th March 2010, 15:10   #25
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Hi, maybe I am missing something here, but I can't see why this side was needed. If an additional one is/was needed,why not use one that was already in existence: the England Lions. They have an identity and known playing staff; it would guarantee giving the future players of England (or the Rest of The World, as I prefer to call them) game time together and generate a team spirit.

Do we really need more kolpaks littering up the place?
I thought the idea was that it would enable young players who may not be getting much of a look in at their counties an opportunity to play some live cricket?
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Old 9th March 2010, 15:44   #26
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That maybe the case Chin Music, but when it was launched the only comment that was made was that it would be for un-attched players. Also I'm wondering if these "un attached" players will be contracted - or will some be moving on if they get the chance of breakin g into a "real" team somewhere?
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Old 9th March 2010, 16:30   #27
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Lofty - long time no hear. You OK?
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Old 9th March 2010, 17:25   #28
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Hi, maybe I am missing something here, but I can't see why this side was needed. If an additional one is/was needed,why not use one that was already in existence: the England Lions. They have an identity and known playing staff; it would guarantee giving the future players of England (or the Rest of The World, as I prefer to call them) game time together and generate a team spirit.
That would be totally unworkable/impossible as the players in England Lions are contracted to represent their counties.
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Old 9th March 2010, 18:03   #29
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Hi, maybe I am missing something here, but I can't see why this side was needed. If an additional one is/was needed,why not use one that was already in existence: the England Lions. They have an identity and known playing staff; it would guarantee giving the future players of England (or the Rest of The World, as I prefer to call them) game time together and generate a team spirit.

Do we really need more kolpaks littering up the place?
How does this team's existence bring in more Kolpaks? If anything, your idea would result in more overseas players, with counties shipping players in to replace those selected for the Lions.

And, as paulsre points out, Lions players playing against their own counties in a serious competition is just absurd.
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Maybe it is just my imagination Rey, but if any of the Kolpaks make a threat of any kind the ECB just seem to rolllover to accomodate them. (KP is a prime example, both SA and Australia had the good sense to send him on his way unlike the ECB). Keiswetter is another example there is supposedly a cutback on Kolpaks but the more they are accomodated the more will come and try their luck).

Why would the inclusion of the Lions be "unworkable" the Counties seem to get by without them for large parts of the season? This would only be 12 days or so extra.

You seem to be forgetting that the official line is that the Counties exist only to provide players for the "National" team.


Things aren't too bad with me Kim, although I've had a few health problems recently. The reason I have disappeared of the scene, is that someone is STILL postin ont bearsfans that I think shouldn't be there. Also I have become increasingly disillusioned with all things Edgbaston; there is no way that I am paying an extra 10% on top of what was already an expensive membership, to be treated like crap by an ex polo player. Oh and I forgot the 10% also entitles me to sit in a building site with no food or drink available for large parts of the day.

Therefore I will be watching most of my cricket at KIdderminster, Worcester, Harborne, Moseley and Kings Heath...almost anywhere except Edgbaston.

Hope things are good with you. (Are you enjoying the new regime at the Boleyn Ground)? It sounds as if all that has changed is the venue they are still coming out with same old rubbish: trying to con someone into providing them with a new ground and get other people to finance the place.
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Old 15th March 2010, 13:51   #31
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Why would the inclusion of the Lions be "unworkable" the Counties seem to get by without them for large parts of the season? This would only be 12 days or so extra.

You seem to be forgetting that the official line is that the Counties exist only to provide players for the "National" team.
1. Because it would cause a furious rebellion among the counties.

2. Since when did the Lions players miss "large parts" of the county season? I don't recall James Taylor, Andrew Gale, Steve Kirby etc etc etc being away from their counties much last year.

3. What possible benefit would there be from this? I can think of precisely none, and the only effect being to wreck relations between the counties, their members and the ECB. The Lions already have a comprehensive programme of matches against strong sides to prepare them for the international stage.

4. Their inclusion would lopside the whole tournament, as they would obviously be odds-on favourites to win it. And if/when they got to Lord's, the ECB would be left to ponder the headache of selling tickets for a team with no supporter base.
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Old 23rd March 2010, 13:21   #32
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From Warwickshires official site (is the final still at Lords?):

The England Cricket Board’s recreational VI, the ECB Unicorns, were at Edgbaston on 20th and 21st March as part of their training schedule, all in preparation for the inaugural Clydesdale Bank 40 league, which starts this May.

The squad are one of 21 teams due to take part in the new 40-over league and is made up of players from across the country, without full county contracts.

The Unicorns, captained by ex-Somerset player Keith Parsons (main picture), will spend a series of sessions at the Edgbaston Cricket Centre in the run up to the start of the competition to ensure the squad’s skills are fully honed in preparation for their matches.

Due to play in the Clydesdale Bank 40 league, the competition includes the 18 first class county sides, as well as Scotland and Holland. With the league split into three groups, the Unicorns will be pitted against a number of these sides during the group stage, before the winners of each group progress to the semi-finals.

Nick Archer, Edgbaston Cricket Centre manager, said: “The ECB Unicorns will be taking advantage of our facilities and central location here at the Edgbaston Cricket Centre and we will do our best to ensure there training here is as successful as it can be.

“Hopefully their sessions here will provide just the preparation they need and we wish them every success in the Clydesdale Bank 40 league.”

Phil Oliver, ECB Unicorn’s head coach, added: “Our training sessions at Edgbaston will prove vital in the run up to the start of the competition in May. As the team is made up of players from across the country it’s essential we have plenty of time to train together before the start and the first class facilities at the Cricket Centre in Edgbaston will provide us with the best opportunity to hone our skills.”

The Clydesdale Bank 40 league will start in May and conclude with the final at Lord’s on 18th September
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They're almost as secretive about who is playing for them as North Korea.
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From what has been posted above it seems that the team will vary from week to week depending on who can be bothered to turn up. The Unicorns are at a disadvantage before they start as they will be playing without an import (bet it the traditional kind or kolpak).

The whole idea is a complete joke, they would have been better off going with an established team instead. It will be interesting to see what the attendances will be for their matches particularly at the "home matches".

Yet another example of the ECB bringing the game into disrepute, to go with the ridiculous idea they have for the 2nd eleven competition.

It is hard enough to get people through the gate anyway without having mystery teams with no cohesion or identity around.
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Keith Parsons, Steve Adshead and Mark Hardinges are confirmed starters for the Unicorns.
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From what has been posted above it seems that the team will vary from week to week depending on who can be bothered to turn up. The Unicorns are at a disadvantage before they start as they will be playing without an import (bet it the traditional kind or kolpak).

The whole idea is a complete joke, they would have been better off going with an established team instead. It will be interesting to see what the attendances will be for their matches particularly at the "home matches".

One solution would have been a Combined Universities side. I know the terms end around June, but that shouldn't present a problem for player availability.
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One solution would have been a Combined Universities side. I know the terms end around June, but that shouldn't present a problem for player availability.
Or they could have given the slot to Denmark.

Does anyone know what the reason is that Ireland doesn't take part? Too much cricket this year already or do they think the opposition is not good enough?
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They're almost as secretive about who is playing for them as North Korea.
It's probably because they are such a bunch of no-names taking part, that their own coach doesn't know who they are.

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Or they could have given the slot to Denmark.

Does anyone know what the reason is that Ireland doesn't take part? Too much cricket this year already or do they think the opposition is not good enough?
I find it highly unlikely that Cricket Ireland would decline to partake on the basis that playing 50 over cricket would be better preparation for international 50 over cricket, as if that is the case would not the ECB have ensured that England's stars played 50 over cricket?
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