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Old 28th February 2007, 22:50   #1
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Read or Jones?

Well someone was going to start this.
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Old 28th February 2007, 22:51   #2
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Oh NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I still say neither however.
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Old 28th February 2007, 22:53   #3
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Oh NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I still say neither however.
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
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Old 1st March 2007, 00:13   #4
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Read for me. He is the better wicket keeper.



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Old 1st March 2007, 00:15   #5
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Read for me. He is the better wicket keeper.



Unfortunately Daz, Read has proven that he has not got the technique to bat at 7 in a modern Test cricketing side. Should we persist with Read, we would be forced to make compromise elsewhere with the batting line up, either in playing him lower down the order, in which case who would occupy that Modern-7 slot? Or we accept the risk that he will neither be able to hold up an end, or indeed progress the scoring whilst batting, despite the undoubted benefit of being able to stop three byes an innings.
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Old 1st March 2007, 00:28   #6
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Read or Jones. Either of them will do to replace Paul Nixon.
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Old 1st March 2007, 00:31   #7
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Geraint Jones. He is an excellent keeper batsmen.
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Old 1st March 2007, 01:00   #8
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I feel, unlike Chris Read, I was unfairly chopped in my prime on the other board, just as we were approaching our ton.

Anyway, Prior or Foster or Jones if he rediscovers his form, or Nixon or Davies if he progresses.
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Old 1st March 2007, 01:15   #9
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When Fletcher or Vaughan or Flintoff are interviewed why aren't they asked for an explanation about the Read situation. I noticed that Atherton and Hussain have recently started asking probing questions on other matters.

Question 1 - why was Jones given a long run in the side and not Read?
Question 2 - is players form in one day matches and Tests linked i.e. if a player fails in one form of the game does it count against a player in the other?
Question 3 - is the reason you don't rate Read because he doesn't claim for everything behind the stumps, or he won't change his batting style.
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Old 1st March 2007, 01:41   #10
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When Fletcher or Vaughan or Flintoff are interviewed why aren't they asked for an explanation about the Read situation. I noticed that Atherton and Hussain have recently started asking probing questions on other matters.

Question 1 - why was Jones given a long run in the side and not Read?
Question 2 - is players form in one day matches and Tests linked i.e. if a player fails in one form of the game does it count against a player in the other?
Question 3 - is the reason you don't rate Read because he doesn't claim for everything behind the stumps, or he won't change his batting style.
Many of us think that there is some other reason why Read has had such a raw deal. It's clear that Duncan Fletcher really dislikes him, there's more to it than his batting or that he's too quiet. Don't accuse me of conspiracy theories: when Fletcher has done everything in his power to keep him out of the team or drop him at the first opportunity there must be something personal in it.

My guess is that some of these commentators know what that something is. That's why they never can never ask the question. Now this might be a conspiracy theory.
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Old 1st March 2007, 01:45   #11
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He hasn't had a raw deal, he's just not good enough.

Test match cricket is as much about mental strength as ability. In Fletcher's opinion Read doesn't have the mental strength nor the batting technique. I'd say there is a fair bit of evidence to back up those opinions.
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Many of us think that there is some other reason why Read has had such a raw deal. It's clear that Duncan Fletcher really dislikes him, there's more to it than his batting or that he's too quiet. Don't accuse me of conspiracy theories: when Fletcher has done everything in his power to keep him out of the team or drop him at the first opportunity there must be something personal in it.

My guess is that some of these commentators know what that something is. That's why they never can never ask the question. Now this might be a conspiracy theory.

I think you are right about the commentators knowing the reason why.
It isn't all down to Fletcher, Flintoff and Vaughan could have overruled Fletcher when they were captains.

I don't know why Fletcher doesn't have it out with Graveney and say it's no use you picking him because we won't play him. I have a feeling that back with Notts again Read will be back in the runs to prove something to Fletcher.
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I have no opinions at all on the matter.
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Old 1st March 2007, 05:44   #14
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I'm turning over a new leaf you see?
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Except in the boosting post count stakes. I'm not changing my form there for any man.

I note that the new forum requires a 30 rather than 20 second pause between posts. Was that specifically designed to scupper me, I wonder.
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Old 1st March 2007, 08:52   #16
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I'm not very gruntled at the moment and have difficulty getting in to the spirit of this thread. We were a few posts short of 1800 of the highest quality at the 'other place'.

I don't suppose we can import it can we? I had just waved my cyberspace bat to the cyberspace pavilion having scored 100 - all in singles...
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I'm not very gruntled at the moment and have difficulty getting in to the spirit of this thread. We were a few posts short of 1800 of the highest quality at the 'other place'.

I don't suppose we can import it can we? I had just waved my cyberspace bat to the cyberspace pavilion having scored 100 - all in singles...
I would think it would be trivially easy to cut and paste posts but importing the whole lot would be rather more of a challenge.
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I think you are right about the commentators knowing the reason why.
It isn't all down to Fletcher, Flintoff and Vaughan could have overruled Fletcher when they were captains.

I don't know why Fletcher doesn't have it out with Graveney and say it's no use you picking him because we won't play him. I have a feeling that back with Notts again Read will be back in the runs to prove something to Fletcher.
I agree, it isn't just Fletcher. There are others who don't want Read in the team, for reasons that aren't clear to outsiders.
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Foster. Or, in a few years, possibly Davies.

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