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Old 4th March 2018, 12:33   #61
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I find it incredible that players with county contracts would expect to be made available for an overseas domestic tournament during our own T20. I thought Caribbean cricket was skint anyway. Surely their broadcasting deal can't be that lucrative? Or do players just want to go on a tropical jolly?
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Old 4th March 2018, 12:45   #62
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I find it incredible that players with county contracts would expect to be made available for an overseas domestic tournament during our own T20. I thought Caribbean cricket was skint anyway. Surely their broadcasting deal can't be that lucrative? Or do players just want to go on a tropical jolly?
August & early September in the Caribbean? Isn't that the Hurricane season?
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Old 5th March 2018, 17:27   #63
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I find it incredible that players with county contracts would expect to be made available for an overseas domestic tournament during our own T20. I thought Caribbean cricket was skint anyway. Surely their broadcasting deal can't be that lucrative? Or do players just want to go on a tropical jolly?
I don't think they do. Hales and Rashid only just signed new white ball only county contracts and only want to play in the CPL when their county commitments allow. Entering the auction is more about putting their names out there as possible replacement players in the latter stages of the competition.
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Old 5th March 2018, 18:33   #64
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It transpires that Rashid and Hales announced their decisions straight after the ECB scrapped its automatic incremental contracts payments of £50,000 to fringe players when they have made a certain amount of international appearances.

Coincidence? I don't think so...
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Old 5th March 2018, 23:51   #65
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...land-australia

To that end, the chief executives of the full member national boards will come together at the next ICC meeting in Kolkata in April to debate a discussion paper on the possible future landscape for domestic Twenty20 cricket within the world game, and recommendations that include:

• Restricting players under 32 to three domestic T20 leagues per year

• Regional T20 windows that leave six months of the year clear for international cricket from 2023 onwards

• All leagues to pay 20% of a player’s contract value to their home board as mandatory compensation

• Capping the number of overseas players in each domestic T20 league

• Standardised conditions that guarantee player welfare and payment
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Old 6th March 2018, 11:19   #66
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To that end, the chief executives of the full member national boards will come together at the next ICC meeting in Kolkata in April to debate a discussion paper on the possible future landscape for domestic Twenty20 cricket within the world game, and recommendations that include:

• Restricting players under 32 to three domestic T20 leagues per year

• Regional T20 windows that leave six months of the year clear for international cricket from 2023 onwards

• All leagues to pay 20% of a player’s contract value to their home board as mandatory compensation

• Capping the number of overseas players in each domestic T20 league

• Standardised conditions that guarantee player welfare and payment
I can't see how restricting players from playing in 3 tournaments is going to work - restraint of trade, surely. There will be a number of players who barely get a go in 50 over/FC cricket so why shouldn't they maximise their opportunities. I'm not talking just about the biggest name players here.
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Old 6th March 2018, 18:50   #67
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To that end, the chief executives of the full member national boards will come together at the next ICC meeting in Kolkata in April to debate a discussion paper on the possible future landscape for domestic Twenty20 cricket within the world game, and recommendations that include:

• Restricting players under 32 to three domestic T20 leagues per year

• Regional T20 windows that leave six months of the year clear for international cricket from 2023 onwards

• All leagues to pay 20% of a player’s contract value to their home board as mandatory compensation

• Capping the number of overseas players in each domestic T20 league

• Standardised conditions that guarantee player welfare and payment
So that will translate as the IPL and 2 other T20 leagues once the BCCI throw their toys out of the pram.
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Old 6th March 2018, 20:13   #68
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I can't see how restricting players from playing in 3 tournaments is going to work - restraint of trade, surely. There will be a number of players who barely get a go in 50 over/FC cricket so why shouldn't they maximise their opportunities. I'm not talking just about the biggest name players here.
Agreed. Don't have the tournaments if you don't want the players to play in them.

Or maybe have an international t20 tournament every year?
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Colin Munro the latest to retire from first class to concentrate on short forms. Averages over 50 with the bat in first class I think. Definitely better than Henry Nicholls and it's only a shortage (nay, dearth) of Test cricket that's meant he hasn't had a 2nd chance in the form.

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Colin Munro the latest to retire from first class to concentrate on short forms. Averages over 50 with the bat in first class I think. Definitely better than Henry Nicholls and it's only a shortage (nay, dearth) of Test cricket that's meant he hasn't had a 2nd chance in the form.

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Bye bye, good riddance Colin. Don't wonder where your career went when those t-20 contracts cease coming, bye.
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Bye bye, good riddance Colin. Don't wonder where your career went when those t-20 contracts cease coming, bye.
It'll probably be a better career than playing pointless first class games in empty grounds.
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It'll probably be a better career than playing pointless first class games in empty grounds.
It's a fair point. As Jimmy implied the other day, a T20 career is more glamorous, better paid and a physical doddle compared to years in the f-c game.
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It'll probably be a better career than playing pointless first class games in empty grounds.
First class careers are often what gave these guys their limited over chances in the first place - particularly guys like Munro and McClenaghan.

McClenaghan can't seemingly get these lucrative contracts anymore. Munro if he's not playing for NZ (no guarantee given his current form) won't be in the shop window for lucrative leagues.
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It'll probably be a better career than playing pointless first class games in empty grounds.
A lot of people seem to fail to grasp this, why would anyone rather play in empty stands for pittance? Its something the West Indies have been lambasted over but to me it seens entirely logical from both a cricketing and financial perspective.
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A lot of people seem to fail to grasp this, why would anyone rather play in empty stands for pittance? Its something the West Indies have been lambasted over but to me it seens entirely logical from both a cricketing and financial perspective.


Whilst 40 or 50 years (or more) ago professional cricketers (like professional footballers at the time) did earn just a pittance, that's not true now.

I seem to remember Dean Headley writing an article after he was forced to retire saying that (at that time - some years ago now) how few of his contemporaries realised how difficult it was to get a job earning 40K a year, and that they should be pleased with what they were earning. I suspect wages have increased since then.

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It's not true in the UK for sure, however when you look at earnings around the world from international cricket they are - aside from the big three - somewhat limited. The disparity between say what an england or india contracted player makes from that contract is huge when you compare for instance to a sri Lankan or West Indian.
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First class careers are often what gave these guys their limited over chances in the first place - particularly guys like Munro and McClenaghan.

McClenaghan can't seemingly get these lucrative contracts anymore. Munro if he's not playing for NZ (no guarantee given his current form) won't be in the shop window for lucrative leagues.
We might be in a transition period where the route to getting enough recognition to play the t20 leagues still starts off by playing first class cricket. But I think this is already changing and we'll increasingly see t20 only careers becoming the norm.
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It's not true in the UK for sure, however when you look at earnings around the world from international cricket they are - aside from the big three - somewhat limited. The disparity between say what an england or india contracted player makes from that contract is huge when you compare for instance to a sri Lankan or West Indian.
I think the ICC should make an effort to bring in a minimum salary for central contracts, even if it means using some of their own significant cash reserves for the poorer nations. Then have each international series played under Strauss's points idea with prize money for the winners. You could then have an overall table to determine the best cricket team in the world based on performance on all 3 forms if the game, whilst still keeping the traditional Test trophies. Hopefully that would concentrate players and teams' minds on white and red ball cricket.
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