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Old 26th May 2011, 23:17   #181
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Didn't realise Southampton had become part of Worcestershire....

Seriously though, what were they playing at? As the article mentions, a quick bit of research on cricket archive should have found him out. Has played for a lot of clubs across the country and a bit for Bedfordshire with very modest returns indeed.
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Old 27th May 2011, 00:06   #182
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Classic stuff. I had a look at his profile on cricinfo the other week and I thought he had the makings of a pretty poor player. Still, he's attained legend status now and anyone who says a bad word against him shall incur my considerable wrath.
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Blimey! National junior tennis player and Arsenal academy footballer. He must be "the new C.B. Fry".
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Old 27th May 2011, 00:16   #184
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Blimey! National junior tennis player and Arsenal academy footballer. He must be "the new C.B. Fry".
As in C Barry Fry? That Judas ******* definitely had a similar issue with reality.

Now you've got me all upset about this story, when previously I was just finding it funny.
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Old 27th May 2011, 07:08   #185
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The link doesn't work, and unfortunately I can't figure out what the story is from the comments. Could someone give an outline?
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Old 27th May 2011, 08:51   #186
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what's the story? I'm getting page not found at the end of that link.

Was it about Shankar ?
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Old 27th May 2011, 10:43   #187
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what's the story? I'm getting page not found at the end of that link.

Was it about Shankar ?
The link still works for me. I hope I'm not breaking any board rules by copying the text here:

"Exposed Shankar released by Worcestershire
George Dobell
May 26, 2011

Worcestershire have released batsman Adrian Shankar after barely two weeks with the club - and there is more to the departure than a simple change of mind.

The background of Shankar, who represented Worcestershire in the CB40 and County Championship last week, and whose deal was terminated without further comment on Thursday, has started to unravel. It has emerged he is actually three years older than he told the county and talked his way into a two-year contract through a mixture of bluff and bravado.

Worcestershire only signed Shankar on May 11. In the press release that announced this, the club stated that Shankar was 26 years old and had just returned from a prolific winter in Sri Lanka. It also stated that he was in demand from several other counties.

None of it is true. Shankar is actually 29 and, while he may have played some cricket in Sri Lanka, it was not at first-class or an equivalent level.

Shankar left Bedford School (he played in the same team as Alastair Cook) after his A Levels in 2000, made his second XI debut in 1999 (for Nottinghamshire) and his first-class debut in 2002. He's subsequently played second XI cricket for Sussex, Worcestershire, Lancashire and Middlesex.

Were the details he gave Worcestershire correct, it would have meant he made his second team debut aged just 14. But when Shankar registered at Cambridge and Bedford, he gave his date of birth as May 1982. Only much later did it change to May 1985.

It seems he produced identification proving that he was born in 1985, but he has explained his past by suggesting he might have been the youngest Cambridge University captain in history. Until yesterday, even the Cambridge University Cricket website (www.cucc.net) carried that version of events. Meanwhile, a little research proved that several of the players he was supposed to have played against in Sri Lanka were actually playing elsewhere on the same days.

Shankar has also said that his career progression has been held-up by an 18-month bout of glandular fever, that he played tennis to national standard as a junior and that he was in the Arsenal academy at the start of Arsene Wenger's tenure.

On the field Shankar is, at best, an ordinary player. After a decade in the game, he had a first-class average of just 19 and has passed 50 only once in 21 innings. He made 143 in the Varsity Match of 2002 (as a 17-year-old, if you believe his version of events) but, as Chris Scott, the Cambridge UCCE coach, said: "The bowling was unbelievably bad. He was a poor player and there's no way I would have recommended him."

Oddly, however, when Shankar signed for Lancashire, the Cambridge coach was quoted in a press release referring to him as one of the finest young players the side had seen since John Crawley. "I phoned Lancashire and made it clear that I'd never said anything of the sort," Scott said. "No-one at Worcestershire or Lancashire asked my opinion before they signed him." Instead of smelling a rat, however, Lancashire simply removed the offending paragraph.

Does any of this matter? Is it just an example of a determined man refusing to give up on his dream?

Perhaps. But Shankar was also taking another man's place in the Worcestershire team. And, by claiming to be 26, Shankar slipped in under the threshold to qualify for the young player incentives handed out by the ECB to first-class counties. He therefore gave himself an unfair advantage in the fight for a place in the Worcestershire team. His swift release was no surprise.

The episode also raises questions about Worcestershire. It seems incredible that no-one at the club thought to check Shankar's story. Five minutes spent on the web would have been enough to raise suspicions; ten minutes on the phone would have confirmed them.

Instead, however, Worcestershire contented themselves with a photocopy of a passport and took Shankar's word for his former achievements. They even threw Shankar straight into their first team - as an opening batsman - without even taking a look at him in a Second XI game (though he did play for their second team in 2003). He was out for a third-ball duck against Middlesex and, batting in the middle-order in the Championship against Durham, was unbeaten on 10 when injury ended his innings."

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Old 27th May 2011, 10:54   #188
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He's listed as being 29 in the Second XI annual - a book you would think that people thinking of handing out contracts would regularly use as a reference tool.
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Old 27th May 2011, 11:29   #189
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I think it's easy to get at Worcs about this but people's rendition of their own achievements are regularly accepted at face value.

When I recruit people I only occasionally check their academic or professional qualifications, and I’ve never been asked for mine.

Worcs are struggling for cash and players and really everything, so I’m guessing that documentation isn’t high up their panic list. It’s not exactly on a par with Jeffrey Archer basing his entire career on lying his dirty lying face off.

I'm slightly pleased to have seen his 3 ball innings.

Maybe this will be the turning point for our season (snort).
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Old 27th May 2011, 12:44   #190
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I think it's easy to get at Worcs about this but people's rendition of their own achievements are regularly accepted at face value.

When I recruit people I only occasionally check their academic or professional qualifications, and Iíve never been asked for mine.

Worcs are struggling for cash and players and really everything, so Iím guessing that documentation isnít high up their panic list. Itís not exactly on a par with Jeffrey Archer basing his entire career on lying his dirty lying face off.

I'm slightly pleased to have seen his 3 ball innings.

Maybe this will be the turning point for our season (snort).
You're right - we generally expect people to tell the truth about themselves. You only have to look at Frank Abagnale (Catch Me If You Can) to see that illustrated to the maximum.
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Old 27th May 2011, 12:58   #191
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You're right - we generally expect people to tell the truth about themselves.
Aye - the only reason I ever had a girlfriend.
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Old 27th May 2011, 14:14   #192
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Reading in more detail about Shankar, I have some sympathy for him. It seems he did tell some lies, but he has now been portrayed by the media as nothing short of a total charlatan. The facts are, though, that he did play for Cambridge and he did play plenty of Second XI cricket. Evidently he must have had some ability, as he didn't lie himself into those numerous games.

I'll still a bit baffled why Worcestershire signed him anyway, when there have been a host of excellent performances by UCCE players this spring - young, talented players who they could have offered a summer contract to or asked to take on loan from their county.
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Old 27th May 2011, 20:37   #193
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I'll still a bit baffled why Worcestershire signed him anyway, when there have been a host of excellent performances by UCCE players this spring - young, talented players who they could have offered a summer contract to or asked to take on loan from their county.
Yes, it is odd. Regardless of whether he's 26 or 29, it's obvious he's played a bit of first class cricket / second XI / MCCU stuff, but not much serious first team county cricket, so why give him a 2 year contract? Unless . . . .

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Old 27th May 2011, 21:57   #194
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He even put himself into the IPL auction. Either delusions of grandeur, or all part of the plot.

I'd like to hear what Kim thinks of this turn of events. He was almost tearing up when Shankar signed.
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A sorry mess. Will be intrigued to see what the Lancs board make of this saga!
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Some more news from George......

ECB launching an internal investigation,

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ry/517133.html

Sounds like Wright and Richo bowled really well today. They might not be the sharpest most dangerous bowlers in the world but they're the type of guys i'd want in my dressing room. Reliable, experienced and bloody hard working
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Just to come in from the devil's advocate's side, it's quite interesting that while there have been various sources rubbishing Shankar's ability (the latest is the Bedfordshire chairman saying he wasn't good enough to get into their side for years), he was a regular for Lancashire 2nd XI in 2009 and played fairly frequently for them until the end of July 2010, scoring 122 v Middlesex last year. He also went on their pre-season tours in 2009 and 2010.

Pity he chose to lie about his age rather than just presenting the above as his credentials to Worcestershire.
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He lied to Lancashire about his age too, that's why they got rid of him.
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He lied to Lancashire about his age too, that's why they got rid of him.
This again raises questions about Worcestershire - being the place that he'd spent the last 2 years and where he'd been repeatedly tested in a 2nd XI environment, surely the first port of call for Worcestershire for a reference would have been a phone call to Lancashire - surely?????????

Still can't really understand what possessed them to sign him until the end of 2012.
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