Cricket 24/7  

Welcome to the Cricket 24/7.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. There are also more forums available to members, such as the Lounge - where members chat about just about anything under the sun except cricket!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   Cricket 24/7 > Cricket Discussion Forums > International Cricket
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Casino Articles Terms of Use Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19th October 2017, 19:32   #4581
Hector
Established International
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southampton
Team(s): Deportivo Finance, Hampshire, Berkshire
Age: 39
Posts: 3,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000yardstare View Post
BT Sport and the Ashes
Commentators

Vaughan
Ponting
Boycott
Gilchrist
Swann
Fleming
Alison Mitchell
Matt Smith

No Pietersen or Greg James.

TMS
Agnew
Vaughan
Boycott
Swann
Tufnell
McGrath
Maxwell
Mann
Norcross
Ed Smith
Mitchell

So we won't be able to get away from Vaughan, Swann, Boycott and Mitchell.
Can't get away from the airhorn Boycott either.
__________________
www.yahooovercowcorner.wordpress.com


@YahoooverCC
Hector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2017, 19:38   #4582
D/L
Legendary
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Leeds
Team(s): Yorkshire CCC & England, Wakefield Trinity RLFC, Leeds Carnegie RUFC
Posts: 9,331
Lucrative couple of months for Boycott by the look of it.

Not having BT Sport and the attraction of the Ashes insufficient to make me even think about subscribing, I'm looking forward to hearing more from Boycott than I usually do. Blofeld not being there will be another plus.
D/L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2017, 23:33   #4583
square leg umpire
Legendary
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: yorkshire
Team(s): yorkshire
Posts: 8,807
Bt sport seems to have too many Aussies.
square leg umpire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2017, 00:48   #4584
Zebroston Chase
Not Lara or Chanderpaul but the best you've got
 
Zebroston Chase's Avatar
When Hope is gone, I will appear.
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Glasgow
Team(s): AFC Hornchurch, Essex, England
Age: 34
Posts: 18,509
3... 3 is too many
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by High Druid Nathan Barley View Post
I'm fully aware of his thinking, which merely underlines the point that he's an idiot.
Zebroston Chase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2017, 10:02   #4585
sharky
Posting God
 
sharky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Sussex
Team(s): Sussex, England
Posts: 10,964
Quote:
Originally Posted by square leg umpire View Post
Bt sport seems to have too many Aussies.
Yet Ponting and Gilchrist are the two along with Boycs that I'd actually enjoy listening to. Fleming is a bit of a tit though, but that's based on his T20 persona, he might be alright on this. It just seems like BT are doing this on the cheap.
__________________
She was like a candle in the wind...Unreliable
sharky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2017, 11:53   #4586
Psyduck
Posting God
 
Psyduck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manchester
Team(s): England, Lancashire, Man Utd
Posts: 16,422
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharky View Post
Yet Ponting and Gilchrist are the two along with Boycs that I'd actually enjoy listening to. Fleming is a bit of a tit though, but that's based on his T20 persona, he might be alright on this. It just seems like BT are doing this on the cheap.
Of that list Ponting is the best IMO although Gilchrist is OK too. I agree Fleming is a bit of a knob. Thank goodness they haven't employed "June" (although I guess there would be a bit of a conflict of interests). It's a shame Greg James isn't presenting as Matt Smith is a bit of a dullard IMO. Isha Guha would have been a better choice.
Psyduck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd November 2017, 15:09   #4587
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 42,525
Great, the board is back. Just in time for me to have a moan. Not about commentators, but commentators were involved.

This being the eve of the Ashes (well it is in Australia) BBC 5Live decided in their wisdom that today's Your Call, hosted by Nicky Campbell, would be "Is the Ashes the greatest sporting contest?". Not in NC's book, obviously as he knows nothing about cricket and cares less. For that reason, it didn't exactly inspire loads of cricket and Ashes lovers to ring in; probably because Nicky kept saying "please ring in about greatest challenges in other sports" (meaning football).

He did interview some little girls who played cricket but was very interested that one of them liked netball (as Nicky's daughter does) and another one played football (whoop-de-whoop).

It pains me to say it but there was a great contribution from Dan Norcross of all people who tried to convey the allure of the sport and dispel all the nonsense about 5 day games ending in a draw.
__________________
As balanced and focused as the next man
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 11:54   #4588
D/L
Legendary
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Leeds
Team(s): Yorkshire CCC & England, Wakefield Trinity RLFC, Leeds Carnegie RUFC
Posts: 9,331
Back on topic, I reconsidered subscribing to BT Sport for live coverage of the Ashes. Then I learned they had contracted Vaughan and Pietersen to their commentary team.

Last edited by D/L : 23rd November 2017 at 12:09.
D/L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 12:07   #4589
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 42,525
Quote:
Originally Posted by D/L View Post
Back on topic, I was tempted to subscribe to BT Sport for live coverage of the Ashes. That is until I learned they had contracted Vaughan and Pietersen to their commentary team.
Plenty of Vaughan but I didn't see KP. However, I switched between TV and TMS.

Apparently KP was critical of England's batting before lunch - it was too slow, batsmen not seizing the initiative, - you know, the way he used to play... Twitter generally didn't agree with KP's views.
__________________
As balanced and focused as the next man
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 13:13   #4590
Chin Music
Administrator
 
Chin Music's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: la sala de opinion equivocada
Team(s): ****
Posts: 24,476
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer View Post
Plenty of Vaughan but I didn't see KP. However, I switched between TV and TMS.

Apparently KP was critical of England's batting before lunch - it was too slow, batsmen not seizing the initiative, - you know, the way he used to play... Twitter generally didn't agree with KP's views.
He (Pietersen) is on channel 9 apparently. To be honest I think they were a little short of where they should be. if closer to say 230-240 the initiative would be with them. With England there is always, always the fear of a collapse and 260 (from 196-4) or so would be nowhere near enough. Then again as you know I'm an arch pessimist.
__________________
Quote:
"One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated" - Thomas More
Chin Music is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 13:45   #4591
Ali TT
Posting God
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,827
There's neither batting too fast nor too slowly in first innings, only scoring enough runs.
__________________
WARNING
Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.
Ali TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 14:18   #4592
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 42,525
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali TT View Post
There's neither batting too fast nor too slowly in first innings, only scoring enough runs.
Ah, but it has to be decided how many runs is enough, and what scoring rate will get the team to that position, so batting too slowly might come into it.

I agree with Chin that 230 would have been nice. But itís the Gabbatoir and most of us are happy with the position as it stands.
__________________
As balanced and focused as the next man
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 14:38   #4593
geoff_boycotts_grandmother
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 28,432
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali TT View Post
There's neither batting too fast nor too slowly in first innings, only scoring enough runs.
Sure, it is all about the number of runs but there's a finite time these players can bat for before fatigue induces a mistake so scoring rate is a factor in the number of runs that they'll eventually score.

I just don't believe the likes of Stoneman and in particular Malan are able to bat for 300 balls that they'll need to face to score a hundred if they are only scoring at a strike-rate of 33 (Stoneman's s/r here and Malan's at Leeds). They appear to be batting at close to their limit and there's a mental toll to playing at your limit. Someone like Root can bat for 300 balls, but he'll often be playing within himself so there's less mental exertion - plus when he bats 300 balls he'll probably be scoring a double hundred rather a single hundred.

Now there's value in England grinding down the Aussie attack - batting a long time can null the effectiveness of Starc and Cummins for later in the series - but if this is the goal England will need to be a little more positive against Lyon and not let him bowl so many overs. This doesn't necessarily need to mean slogging him into the stand but just rotating the strike better against him and ensuring you do put away the loose ball when it comes.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer
It was a poor innings by Bell with the bat.
geoff_boycotts_grandmother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 18:33   #4594
Psyduck
Posting God
 
Psyduck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manchester
Team(s): England, Lancashire, Man Utd
Posts: 16,422
I think I heard KP say he would have preferred Lyon’s figures to be 3-70 or 3-80 off the same number of overs, which I thought was bizarre.
Psyduck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 18:38   #4595
Hector
Established International
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southampton
Team(s): Deportivo Finance, Hampshire, Berkshire
Age: 39
Posts: 3,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyduck View Post
I think I heard KP say he would have preferred Lyonís figures to be 3-70 or 3-80 off the same number of overs, which I thought was bizarre.
If England had finished at 400-2 he would find fault. Just another pundit from the Boycott mould.
__________________
www.yahooovercowcorner.wordpress.com


@YahoooverCC
Hector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 18:51   #4596
Ali TT
Posting God
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,827
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
Sure, it is all about the number of runs but there's a finite time these players can bat for before fatigue induces a mistake so scoring rate is a factor in the number of runs that they'll eventually score.

I just don't believe the likes of Stoneman and in particular Malan are able to bat for 300 balls that they'll need to face to score a hundred if they are only scoring at a strike-rate of 33 (Stoneman's s/r here and Malan's at Leeds). They appear to be batting at close to their limit and there's a mental toll to playing at your limit. Someone like Root can bat for 300 balls, but he'll often be playing within himself so there's less mental exertion - plus when he bats 300 balls he'll probably be scoring a double hundred rather a single hundred.

Now there's value in England grinding down the Aussie attack - batting a long time can null the effectiveness of Starc and Cummins for later in the series - but if this is the goal England will need to be a little more positive against Lyon and not let him bowl so many overs. This doesn't necessarily need to mean slogging him into the stand but just rotating the strike better against him and ensuring you do put away the loose ball when it comes.
Malan and Stoneman can't last for 300 balls for the same reason they can't score at faster rates - currently they're not good enough to. Given time they may develop so that they can do one or both better. At the moment I'd trust neither to score quickly and set up a declaration in the third innings or dig in and bat out for a draw in the fourth.
__________________
WARNING
Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.
Ali TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 20:32   #4597
geoff_boycotts_grandmother
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 28,432
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyduck View Post
I think I heard KP say he would have preferred Lyonís figures to be 3-70 or 3-80 off the same number of overs, which I thought was bizarre.
I'd far rather an English bowler took 3-80 off 24 overs than 0-40.

I presume the bizarre thing is more at suggesting that that would be the trade off?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer
It was a poor innings by Bell with the bat.
geoff_boycotts_grandmother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd November 2017, 23:56   #4598
square leg umpire
Legendary
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: yorkshire
Team(s): yorkshire
Posts: 8,807
Quote:
Originally Posted by D/L View Post
Back on topic, I reconsidered subscribing to BT Sport for live coverage of the Ashes. Then I learned they had contracted Vaughan and Pietersen to their commentary team.
Learnt we could get it free if we committed to BT broadband for a further 18 months. We'd no plans to change so why not?
square leg umpire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th November 2017, 00:34   #4599
Psyduck
Posting God
 
Psyduck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Manchester
Team(s): England, Lancashire, Man Utd
Posts: 16,422
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
I'd far rather an English bowler took 3-80 off 24 overs than 0-40.

I presume the bizarre thing is more at suggesting that that would be the trade off?
Iím not really sure I follow your point. As an England fan Iíd like to have an extra 30-40 runs on the board but not at the expense of another wicket, let alone 3.
Psyduck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th November 2017, 02:34   #4600
Michelle Fivefer
Posting Goddess
 
Michelle Fivefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North West England
Team(s): England, Lancashire
Posts: 42,525
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
I'd far rather an English bowler took 3-80 off 24 overs than 0-40.

I presume the bizarre thing is more at suggesting that that would be the trade off?
So would I. Wickets are what counts. Restricting the scoring may help but the wickets have to be taken.

However I didnít see/read/hear about the discussion that provoked your post.
__________________
As balanced and focused as the next man
Michelle Fivefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:18.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
© Cricket247.org