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Old 20th December 2018, 09:45   #1
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New Zealand vs England Tests 2019

Hello

I'm planning a trip to NZ to visit family and by a quirk of fortune we appear to be touring in Nov/Dec 2019.
Does anyone know anything about the schedule ? Very little info out there atm.
Last tour was Dunedin, Wellington and Auckland so one of them wont feature this time as only 2 tests.

Anyway, any comments or tips on heading down and around that neck of the woods is appreciated.

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Old 20th December 2018, 09:53   #2
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I live in Wellington. Happy to give you any tips. I'm surprised England would be touring in Nov/Dec 2019 though. NZ are scheduled to play in the 2019 MCG Boxing Day Test (https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricke...test-confirmed) and England only toured earlier this year.

If England were touring NZ, it would usually be in Summer, not Spring (i.e. Jan-Mar 2020), but I'd be surprised.

Nothing in the scheduled World Test Championship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019&#...2019–20), though I guess England could be popping by for some ODI/T20 jollies.
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Old 20th December 2018, 10:00   #3
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Hmmm. The FTP has a 2 Test, 5 T20 series vs. England between October and December 2019. https://www.icc-cricket.com/future-tours-and-events

That's a shocking time of year for cricket. Weather in October/November is highly erratic.

Supposedly Tests are scheduled for Auckland and Christchurch. Eden Park is a terrible ground for cricket, but Hagley Oval, Christchurch is 2nd best to the Basin Reserve. If this is true, it'd be the 2nd tour in a row that England don't play at NZ's home of cricket (the Basin).

5 T20s at that time of year... Given it's England, they'd probably be at the main grounds where big turnouts could be expected: Eden Park (Auckland), Seddon Park (Hamilton), Westpac Stadium (Wellington), Hagley Oval (Christchurch), University Oval (Dunedin). However, to hedge the bets on the weather mockers, there could be options at the Bay Oval (Mount Maunganui).

Still seems a bit strange to me.
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Old 20th December 2018, 10:07   #4
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Hmmm. The FTP has a 2 Test, 5 T20 series vs. England between October and December 2019. https://www.icc-cricket.com/future-tours-and-events

That's a shocking time of year for cricket. Weather in October/November is highly erratic.

Supposedly Tests are scheduled for Auckland and Christchurch. Eden Park is a terrible ground for cricket, but Hagley Oval, Christchurch is 2nd best to the Basin Reserve. If this is true, it'd be the 2nd tour in a row that England don't play at NZ's home of cricket (the Basin).

5 T20s at that time of year... Given it's England, they'd probably be at the main grounds where big turnouts could be expected: Eden Park (Auckland), Seddon Park (Hamilton), Westpac Stadium (Wellington), Hagley Oval (Christchurch), University Oval (Dunedin). However, to hedge the bets on the weather mockers, there could be options at the Bay Oval (Mount Maunganui).

Still seems a bit strange to me.
There are weirder thngs in the England schedule. Like playing 10 tests in 9 months v India in 2021, followed by an away Ashes tour.

Or looking ahead to autumn 2022 when England play 5 ODIs and 3 tests v Pakistan, separated by a quick hop over to Australia to play some limited over matches.
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Last tour was Dunedin, Wellington and Auckland so one of them wont feature this time as only 2 tests.
Dunners, Wellington, Auckland was the previous tour (2013?)

The most recent series was Auckland and Christchurch (2017-18)
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There are weirder thngs in the England schedule. Like playing 10 tests in 9 months v India in 2021, followed by an away Ashes tour.

Or looking ahead to autumn 2022 when England play 5 ODIs and 3 tests v Pakistan, separated by a quick hop over to Australia to play some limited over matches.
October is usually saved for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. In club cricket, I don't think I've ever managed to get a full match in during October.
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October is usually saved for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. In club cricket, I don't think I've ever managed to get a full match in during October.
I feel like this thread needs to be stickied already so we can build up the anticipation ahead of this momentous series!
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Hmmm. The FTP has a 2 Test, 5 T20 series vs. England between October and December 2019. https://www.icc-cricket.com/future-tours-and-events

That's a shocking time of year for cricket. Weather in October/November is highly erratic.
England have a habit of touring when the weather's iffy, they've just toured Sri Lanka in the monsoon season. Seems they just can't get enough of New Zealand. Hope they learn to play swing by then.
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Dunners, Wellington, Auckland was the previous tour (2013?)

The most recent series was Auckland and Christchurch (2017-18)
Apart from that one
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Really would like to play them in a full series. Seriously bad they only get two tests.
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Old 24th December 2018, 13:45   #11
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Really would like to play them in a full series. Seriously bad they only get two tests.
They may fear the prospects of drawn Tests, four of the last five England have played in New Zealand.

Does seem a bit odd to play a risky two Test series with no obvious chasm of skill between the two sides, usually reserved for sides right down the bottom of the pile like the zimmers or bangles.

Perhaps a sign of the times with the increase in ODI, not sure what T20 domestic competition may also be on, but is definitely odd to be playing out there again so soon albeit there were five years to the day between the Test between the two sides earlier this year and the previous one..... (in NZL)

England tours of New Zealand (England Test series results)

England P19 W10 D7 L2
1 Test : P1 W0 D1 L0
2 Tests : P7 W5 D1 L1
3 Tests : P10 W4 D5 L1
4 Tests : P1 W1 D0 L0

ALL series between and including 77/78 to 12/13 were three Tests, half of those series were drawn. All series started between 10th January (earliest) and 24th March (latest), how good an idea the timing is I'll leave to DVS to answer

So even though we're sceptical of playing just two Tests, three Test series have produced only 50-50 in terms of wins compared to 86% for two Tests.....


There is a certain amount of belief that an odd length series produces more series results than an even length series, but since a Test can be drawn it's flawed logic, and there is never going to be a dead rubber match in a two Test series............
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England have a habit of touring when the weather's iffy, they've just toured Sri Lanka in the monsoon season. Seems they just can't get enough of New Zealand. Hope they learn to play swing by then.
It’s to negate NZ’s home advantage by fooling the England players. They’ll think they’re in Manchester.
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There is a certain amount of belief that an odd length series produces more series results than an even length series, but since a Test can be drawn it's flawed logic, and there is never going to be a dead rubber match in a two Test series............
NZ and England have played some excellent series of late. Those of two-test length have left us wanting a third (or even a fourth).

Mental to be playing such a high-profile series in October though. Bloody stupid risk.
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NZ and England have played some excellent series of late. Those of two-test length have left us wanting a third (or even a fourth).

Mental to be playing such a high-profile series in October though. Bloody stupid risk.
Like April in England though I think the seasons in NZ are warmer than their English equivalents. I hope so, otherwise there'll be some 2 day tests.
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Like April in England though I think the seasons in NZ are warmer than their English equivalents. I hope so, otherwise there'll be some 2 day tests.
Seasons here aren't directly equivalent for many reasons. The main issue at that time of the year is rain. Very high chance of rain in both Auckland and Wellington. e.g. Average Auckland (or Wellington) rainfall of over 100mm in October vs. less than 50mm in April for London and around 60mm for Manchester. Christchurch more in line with London in April
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NZ and England are in the world top 4 - should definitely be playing more tests..
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Still no info on the web that i can find and we're nearly in March...anyone heard anything ?
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NZ and England are in the world top 4 - should definitely be playing more tests..
Not any more, so NZ might be less fussed about giving us extra tests.
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Yes - not surprised NZ don't want to play a longer test series against minnows like England.
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Yep, they seem far keener to play 3 Tests against a half strength Bangladesh side!!
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