South Africa v England - Nov/Dec 2020

Aidan11 · 22nd October 2020, 12:09

England's tour to SA has been confirmed. 3 T20is and 3 ODIs. No fans allowed in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/54537709

Jock McTuffnel v3 · 22nd October 2020, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Aidan11

England's tour to SA has been confirmed. 3 T20is and 3 ODIs. No fans allowed in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/54537709

Excellent news for these dark boring lockdown winter months.

Rebelstar · 23rd October 2020, 09:40

so more qualifiers for 2023 World Cup, might be a struggle or mad rush at the end to get games/series in. So far only England and the sides they've played are even going yet

Michelle Fivefer · 30th October 2020, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Jock McTuffnel v3

Excellent news for these dark boring lockdown winter months.

Can’t wait for this tour. Tired of IPL.

Aidan11 · 30th October 2020, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer

Can’t wait for this tour. Tired of IPL.

I would normally not even watch the IPL but in our current circumstances I can't get enough of any cricket. I've even got the WBBL set to record on my planner this weekend so that I can watch it at a reasonable time.

Jock McTuffnel v3 · 30th October 2020, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer

Can’t wait for this tour. Tired of IPL.

Are these the only confirmed England fixtures for the winter ?

Crazy we don't know what the Xmas schedule is.

MRNC4.0 · 3rd November 2020, 02:30

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Originally Posted by Aidan11

I would normally not even watch the IPL but in our current circumstances I can't get enough of any cricket. I've even got the WBBL set to record on my planner this weekend so that I can watch it at a reasonable time.

Shame the weather isn't playing ball (Why do they even have Cricket in Sydney?) Extraordinary hitting from Heather Knight the other day though. Some of the cleanest i've ever seen.

Sir Coolerking · 3rd November 2020, 11:06

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Originally Posted by MRNC4.0

Shame the weather isn't playing ball (Why do they even have Cricket in Sydney?) Extraordinary hitting from Heather Knight the other day though. Some of the cleanest i've ever seen.

I watched her score a County ton the summer before last when I should've been watching my daughter play on the nextdoor pitch. It's quite mesmerising watching a level of batting that is clearly so far above what is being bowled to her.

Currently watching the Stars seemingly chasing down the Strikers 154 quite comfortably.

MRNC4.0 · 3rd November 2020, 11:13

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Originally Posted by Sir Coolerking

I watched her score a County ton the summer before last when I should've been watching my daughter play on the nextdoor pitch. It's quite mesmerising watching a level of batting that is clearly so far above what is being bowled to her.

Currently watching the Stars seemingly chasing down the Strikers 154 quite comfortably.

McGrath & Flintoff do battle again.

1000yardstare · 3rd November 2020, 14:16

England men’s Tour of South Africa
Monday 16 November: Touring party departs from London to Cape Town
Saturday 21 November: 50-over intra-squad practice match. Newlands, Cape Town
Monday 23 November: Two T20 intra-squad practice matches. Boland Park, Paarl
Friday 27 November: 1st IT20 South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (6pm SAST)
Sunday 29 November: 2nd IT20 South Africa v England, Boland Park, Paarl (2.30pm SAST)
Tuesday 1 December: 3rd IT20 South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (6pm SAST)
Friday 4 December: 1st ODI South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (1pm SAST)
Sunday 6 December: 2nd ODI South Africa v England, Boland Park, Paarl (10am SAST)
Wednesday 9 December: 3rd ODI South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (1pm SAST)
Thursday 10 December: Touring party departs from Cape Town to London

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...d-south-africa

Sir Coolerking · 3rd November 2020, 15:29

Here are the squads, as strong as we can pick I think (apart from Archer rested from ODI's). Noticeable that Banton has lost his spot.

Twenty20 squad: Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Tom Curran (Surrey), Chris Jordan (Sussex), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Reece Topley (Surrey), Mark Wood (Durham).

One-day squad: Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Tom Curran (Surrey), Lewis Gregory (Somerset), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Olly Stone (Warwickshire), Reece Topley (Surrey), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham).

Reserves across both formats: Jake Ball (Nottinghamshire), Tom Banton (Somerset), Tom Helm (Middlesex).

Sir Virgs and Zamora · 3rd November 2020, 16:05

Gregory. Didn’t see him making the cut!

**Chin Music** · 3rd November 2020, 16:16

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Gregory. Didn’t see him making the cut!

I'll be honest and say I'd forgotten about him. Not really surprised re Banton. Didn't have a good autumn and invisible in IPL.

Sir Coolerking · 3rd November 2020, 16:29

So from that squad, the T20 team is probably:

Roy, Bairstow, Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Moeen, Curran (S or T), Jordan/Wood, Archer, Rashid

sanskritsimon · 3rd November 2020, 21:31

I would much prefer it if instead of playing all those limited-overs matches they would just play one test match. So as an exercise I have put together a test XI out of those two squads. See what you think:

Root
Stokes
Ali
Malan
Morgan*
Buttler
Bairstow+
Woakes
Rashid
Archer
Wood

Psyduck · 3rd November 2020, 22:07

The good news is that the Joe Denly experiment appears to be over. The bad news is that the Lewis Gregory experiment continues. Bizarre choices as reserves in Ball and Helm.

Jock McTuffnel v3 · 5th November 2020, 11:40

With the T20 WC next year - they are prioritising that over ODIs regarding rest for the top players.

Makes sense.

AJ101 · 6th November 2020, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Psyduck

The good news is that the Joe Denly experiment appears to be over. The bad news is that the Lewis Gregory experiment continues. Bizarre choices as reserves in Ball and Helm.

Bizarre choices that they have reserves at all, they have 20 players between the two squads.

Michelle Fivefer · 6th November 2020, 15:43

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Originally Posted by sanskritsimon

I would much prefer it if instead of playing all those limited-overs matches they would just play one test match. So as an exercise I have put together a test XI out of those two squads. See what you think:

Root
Stokes
Ali
Malan
Morgan*
Buttler
Bairstow+
Woakes
Rashid
Archer
Wood

Not a lot.

The squad is lacking regular test players. Morgan is a one day specialist, and while he captains limited overs teams very well he shouldn’t be in charge of a test team. Woakes hasn’t got a good record overseas.

sanskritsimon · 6th November 2020, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer

... Morgan is a one day specialist, and while he captains limited overs teams very well he shouldn’t be in charge of a test team. Woakes hasn’t got a good record overseas.

OK, Morgan doesn't have to be captain. Whom would you suggest?

I suppose Morgan is only a one-day specialist because they dropped him from the test team. Sure he went through a bad patch, but I thought he showed some promise, and he's probably a better batsman now than he was when he was dropped.

Woakes as you say would be a slight worry on the bowling front, but he has the benefit of experience, and there are three other seamers.

I reckon that team might beat South Africa.

22nd October 2020, 12:09	#1
Aidan11 Harmisonesque Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somewhere cold and wet Posts: 43,064	South Africa v England - Nov/Dec 2020 England's tour to SA has been confirmed. 3 T20is and 3 ODIs. No fans allowed in. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/54537709

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23rd October 2020, 09:40	#3
Rebelstar International Cricketer Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,726	so more qualifiers for 2023 World Cup, might be a struggle or mad rush at the end to get games/series in. So far only England and the sides they've played are even going yet

3rd November 2020, 14:16	#10
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 880 Cummins 301 Bumrah 246 SCurran 55 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Posts: 22,786	England men’s Tour of South Africa Monday 16 November: Touring party departs from London to Cape Town Saturday 21 November: 50-over intra-squad practice match. Newlands, Cape Town Monday 23 November: Two T20 intra-squad practice matches. Boland Park, Paarl Friday 27 November: 1st IT20 South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (6pm SAST) Sunday 29 November: 2nd IT20 South Africa v England, Boland Park, Paarl (2.30pm SAST) Tuesday 1 December: 3rd IT20 South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (6pm SAST) Friday 4 December: 1st ODI South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (1pm SAST) Sunday 6 December: 2nd ODI South Africa v England, Boland Park, Paarl (10am SAST) Wednesday 9 December: 3rd ODI South Africa v England, Newlands, Cape Town (1pm SAST) Thursday 10 December: Touring party departs from Cape Town to London https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...d-south-africa

3rd November 2020, 15:29	#11
Sir Coolerking World Class Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berks Team(s): England, Sussex, Portsmouth Posts: 5,496	Here are the squads, as strong as we can pick I think (apart from Archer rested from ODI's). Noticeable that Banton has lost his spot. Twenty20 squad: Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Tom Curran (Surrey), Chris Jordan (Sussex), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Reece Topley (Surrey), Mark Wood (Durham). One-day squad: Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Tom Curran (Surrey), Lewis Gregory (Somerset), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Olly Stone (Warwickshire), Reece Topley (Surrey), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham). Reserves across both formats: Jake Ball (Nottinghamshire), Tom Banton (Somerset), Tom Helm (Middlesex).

3rd November 2020, 16:05	#12
Sir Virgs and Zamora Posting God Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 26,807	Gregory. Didn’t see him making the cut!

3rd November 2020, 16:29	#14
Sir Coolerking World Class Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berks Team(s): England, Sussex, Portsmouth Posts: 5,496	So from that squad, the T20 team is probably: Roy, Bairstow, Malan, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Moeen, Curran (S or T), Jordan/Wood, Archer, Rashid

3rd November 2020, 21:31	#15
sanskritsimon Posting God Join Date: Mar 2007 Team(s): Arkholme Bees, Hackney Grasshoppers, Holy Cross Academicals Posts: 12,026	I would much prefer it if instead of playing all those limited-overs matches they would just play one test match. So as an exercise I have put together a test XI out of those two squads. See what you think: Root Stokes Ali Malan Morgan* Buttler Bairstow+ Woakes Rashid Archer Wood

3rd November 2020, 22:07	#16
Psyduck Posting God Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Manchester Team(s): England, Lancashire, Man Utd Posts: 17,609	The good news is that the Joe Denly experiment appears to be over. The bad news is that the Lewis Gregory experiment continues. Bizarre choices as reserves in Ball and Helm.